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Extremely extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not make clear ... my poor In respond to spitfirebill: I included that point since when I had to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that wasn't sludged up really severely.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to chat concerning a couple of problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and state one is far better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same lorry.
Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines after that. Let's chat regarding engine and in fact simply to define that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you know, I imply, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you recognize, for a version of a Chevy van has been around considering that, you recognize, around that time too. So we're not going to get back right into, right into the earlier stuff. Given that 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are a lot more prominent and I would not truly recommend a V6 engine.
So, you know, Fords, and the majority of them feature the Triton V8. There's a great deal of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with strike to these engines, due to the fact that they didn't have sufficient threading in the ignition system, which created problems. And typically that would take place when you could be in a 15 guest bus rising a hill with a lots of people and all of an abrupt boom, a trigger plug bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're purchasing anything from probably 08 and newer, you're not mosting likely to have that sort of ignition system problems. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leak, they'll create coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to replace the entire point.
And there's some issues, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, due to the fact that I'm discussing problems, it's a more sophisticated engine. Overhead cam, so you're obtaining more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex layout with press poles.
They're just actually quite excellent, sturdy, solid engines. You know, being a van, of course, you recognize, doing any service on them is a lot more complex because you've reached get rid of that cover and enter into maintenance in odd means. Points like spark plugs last a dreadful lengthy time, so they don't require to be replaced really typically.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a long time, like method back before the 2000 version year.
You recognize, that's still offered. If you're a say, I do not understand, I'm simply going to say a plumbing professional and you've obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're pulling a trailer behind it, that would be an actually excellent usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have less issues in vans than they do in the trucks. Most likely due to the fact that they aren't worked so hard, but when things take place, they're really pricey to take care of. We have actually got a whole lot of videos and information about diesels, specifically the Fords.
You truly require to assume twice regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. And I will claim, Chevy is quite a lot limited to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
However if you're, and once again, we're just speaking about kind of a right, normal cargo van below. The diesel most definitely isn't the finest alternative. Look at your purpose, your use, just how much weight you're carrying and that'll help you make the decision. Mark: What concerning the transmission et cetera of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equivalent.
Something that we haven't spoken about right here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it relies on what version, they're available ever before from half ton to one load framework and actually a few of the cutaway vans are in fact even more sturdy, like, you know, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You know, I'm going to provide the side to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's less guiding link associated with a Chevy. So there are much less parts to put on out. They do a sphere joints that wear. Do Chevy's, yet it appears, and the Chevy's probably last a bit longer than the Fords, but the, you recognize, the guiding linkage is much less challenging, so there's less components and much less things to put on out.
The experience in a Ford is probably a little bit extra truck like but I do not understand if you 'd really ever before truly observed a difference in between the 2. It appears like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
For some factor, they seem to last for one brake job. And then a great deal of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dirt boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be changed. I believe on a Ford and you can expect to invest a bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back prior to the 2000 model years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually negative doors. I mean, the sliding doors were crap, you understand, actually terribly built. In fact, I would claim that if you are even looking at something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles generally truly took a leap ahead in top quality around the 2000 version year, because there was a lot of stuff where the brakes as an example would not last very long whatsoever.
Yet if we're looking at the 2000 newer, I suggest, I would certainly say they're both most likely practically equivalent in top quality, fit and finish, you recognize, several of the traveler vans, of program we'll have better visits than the freight vans. However I can not say that one of them attracts attention to me a little bit more than the other.
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